一蘭拿下2016冠軍 - 東京
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作者: qwertyu1 (哈辣雞翅) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [爆卦] 一蘭拿下2016冠軍
時間: Mon May 30 02:01:49 2016
全文吃光光
大家好,我來anti了,簡單自我介紹
小弟不才在日本住了一年,在餐飲業從事約六年(含日本一年),略懂一點吃跟日本
我先來離題批評一下現在的大環境
關於現在人吃東西的味覺
影響人對於一道餐點評價的因素
不外乎
1.價格
2.食物本身味道
3.裝潢及環境(含食器)
4.服務及氣氛(人帶出來的氛團)
物美價廉讓人吃的很沒負擔
真材實料讓人覺得東西很美味
漂亮且設計的用餐環境讓人有品味
貼心的服務跟良好的氣氛讓人舒服
但是現代除了以上四點
還增加了一個
5.人氣、知名度(排隊及打卡)
其實我真的覺得這是一個很奇怪的事情,而且顯然現在做餐飲的比起上面四點
第五點更重要
大家喜歡花大錢吃央廚然後還要排隊排得要死的人氣店
因為拍照打卡上傳東西會好吃三倍
比起打卡在地好吃的拉麵,一蘭拉麵拍的水水的放在FB不是更有話題嗎
導致現在一堆店都是花大錢打知名度,名模代言外國人氣等等等等
我說這個す○家跟く○寿司還有ユニ○ロ,我跟日本店老闆說在台灣要排隊是潮牌
他大概笑了20分鐘不誇張,當然這個一蘭拉麵老闆也是一臉問號看著我辣
雖然說飲食是很主觀的,但你們不覺得
不是因為自己的薪資跟消費習慣
不是因為喜歡食物本身的味道
(我說真的大部分人根本不懂吃←指同一種食材的好壞辨認,我自己也專精部份而已)
不是因為一間店的明亮風格裝潢是否合自己口味
不是因為老闆熱情服務生親切
而是他媽的誰誰誰說這很好吃,打卡很多人會幫你按讚所以導致你覺得這很好吃
這不是一件很奇怪的事情嗎?
還要催眠自己說「ㄛ不是阿因為我吃真的這個很合我的口味所以...」
別再騙自己了,我相信○蘭會有喜歡的人
但你別拍照打卡,然後把店名拔掉,純粹吃一次你在捫心自問一次,我就不信還剩多少
───
再來說一下這個食記
這是第二個歪風,在我看來食記這東西
幾乎是為了炫耀而寫
1.內容浮誇不真實、用字遣詞胡說八道:
最常出現的就是入口即化這個詞了,最常形容的標的物叫和牛
我他媽常看一堆低能兒照片裡是牛小排或菲力甚至整塊的普通國產翼板牛排
「這個超級好吃真是入口即化.....」 我認真的覺得該化掉的是他的腦袋
其他浮誇的用詞、用詞不精準、胡說八道的我實在懶得一一指證
2.自己在吃甚麼說不清道不處:
「這個日文我看不懂,不知道是甚麼部位,但是日本國產牛真是太好吃了...!」
....我都不知道該從哪邊吐槽起ㄟ
不知道甚麼部位←你在吃啥你都不知道就能太好吃,那其他更好吃同樣部位的怎麼形容?
超爆幹強好吃嗎
尤其是燒肉,每個部位適合熟度都不同(參閱小弟寫的和牛文),你確定你烤得好???
還有題外話,國產牛在日本比美國牛還便宜而且真的比較難吃(廣義上)
另外一個和牛吃到飽我也懶得吐槽下次再吐好了。
3.臉比食物大的:
這我也不想提了,我是來看食記還是看你的臉阿???
以上回想一下,是不是發現
現況海量的食記中,根本沒有幾篇可以看
喔更別提還有網路寫手這個東西,收錢做事還一堆不專業的
實在比一般炫耀更糟糕
然後去日旅版打"蘭"可以搜到100篇以上的食記
讓人搞不懂同一個東西一直寫一直寫
到底是怕誰不知道你們去吃過這東西喔
看到這邊,看官們有沒有發現呼應到第一點的第五項?
人氣&排隊實在影響了現在人味蕾的發展
我覺得雖然料理本身真的很主觀(主因素前四點都是)
但真的別再讓第五點影響自己的味覺。
──
最後,來自日本鄉民的打臉(有興趣的2CH已經有8000條討論,自行觀看一下)
我取幾條日人寫的評價(PS:說好話的真的極少)
還有我取的討論是「發表排名之前」在進行的,所以滿客觀的
134 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:00:01.28 ID:eIuoHx0E
一蘭はチャーシューの不味さなら日本一。
あんな不味いのその辺の中華屋の駄ラーメンでもないぞ。
402 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:03:34.20 ID:NAH2MEOa
一蘭は個別カウンターとかいうクソシステムをどうにかしろ
豚の餌かよ
二度と行く気がせん
496 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:04:43.85 ID:cwgK0jID
一蘭のチャーシュー大嫌い
500 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:04:45.23 ID:o9/4swZO
一蘭高すぎ殺す
535 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:05:01.16 ID:r31oNecV
一蘭と花月は不味い
549 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:05:10.28 ID:FMvsUwWO
一蘭のラーメン食べると次の日絶対下痢する
550 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:05:11.00 ID:XFU/Z8Ql
一蘭で食ったら絶対に下痢する
602 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:05:39.41 ID:X387SjWb
一蘭なんか食べないよ
267 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:24:41.30 ID:uK48HaD7
たぶん一蘭だろうな一位
一品に絞って明らかに一位狙いの戦略だし
270 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:24:46.02 ID:c8w5poKU
福岡だが、一蘭が一位なんて恥だ
291 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:25:36.27 ID:Xln7pmnY
一蘭のせいで福岡のラーメンの値段があがりまくったわ
316 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:27:24.70 ID:hbzrZ7zV
完全に出来レース。
一蘭が金の力で一位だろ、どうせ
433 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:31:05.63 ID:QDEz0mFE
>>359
福岡のその辺のラーメン屋適当に入ったほうが一蘭より美味しいよ
太多我就不貼了,只看發表前討論評價為主
結語一下,這些日本人跟我觀感大致相同
1.很貴,在拉麵中一蘭貴的不可思議,而且很小
2.宣傳很強,廣告跟排隊效應
3.為了考察是不是我在東京大阪吃的一蘭味道不怎麼樣,所以我飛去福岡時
特別跑去吃了一蘭本店,真的很一般,要我說的話我不會給到差評,但在一片
「神好吃」的呼聲中顯得特別可笑跟失望,另外跟日本鄉民說的一樣
隨便在福岡找一間都便宜又好吃(實際上東京也是)
最後,再度呼籲,別再寫/看不營養的食記,讓第五點影響自己的味蕾
多支持真正的好店、多嘗試、多選擇,你的生活體驗會更豐富,共勉之
阿,真的不是一竿子打翻一船(上一篇我也有說)
但下次的看食記的時候,給你們一個訣竅
犯了我第二節敘述三點其中一點的那個人食記以後一輩子都不用看了
他是寫來炫耀,不是跟你說這間店值得去吃的,出發點就錯了,懂?
--
已獲得原作者同意(可至原文推文查證)
※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板 #1NIowGAv ]
作者: qwertyu1 (哈辣雞翅) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [爆卦] 一蘭拿下2016冠軍
時間: Mon May 30 02:01:49 2016
全文吃光光
大家好,我來anti了,簡單自我介紹
小弟不才在日本住了一年,在餐飲業從事約六年(含日本一年),略懂一點吃跟日本
我先來離題批評一下現在的大環境
關於現在人吃東西的味覺
影響人對於一道餐點評價的因素
不外乎
1.價格
2.食物本身味道
3.裝潢及環境(含食器)
4.服務及氣氛(人帶出來的氛團)
物美價廉讓人吃的很沒負擔
真材實料讓人覺得東西很美味
漂亮且設計的用餐環境讓人有品味
貼心的服務跟良好的氣氛讓人舒服
但是現代除了以上四點
還增加了一個
5.人氣、知名度(排隊及打卡)
其實我真的覺得這是一個很奇怪的事情,而且顯然現在做餐飲的比起上面四點
第五點更重要
大家喜歡花大錢吃央廚然後還要排隊排得要死的人氣店
因為拍照打卡上傳東西會好吃三倍
比起打卡在地好吃的拉麵,一蘭拉麵拍的水水的放在FB不是更有話題嗎
導致現在一堆店都是花大錢打知名度,名模代言外國人氣等等等等
我說這個す○家跟く○寿司還有ユニ○ロ,我跟日本店老闆說在台灣要排隊是潮牌
他大概笑了20分鐘不誇張,當然這個一蘭拉麵老闆也是一臉問號看著我辣
雖然說飲食是很主觀的,但你們不覺得
不是因為自己的薪資跟消費習慣
不是因為喜歡食物本身的味道
(我說真的大部分人根本不懂吃←指同一種食材的好壞辨認,我自己也專精部份而已)
不是因為一間店的明亮風格裝潢是否合自己口味
不是因為老闆熱情服務生親切
而是他媽的誰誰誰說這很好吃,打卡很多人會幫你按讚所以導致你覺得這很好吃
這不是一件很奇怪的事情嗎?
還要催眠自己說「ㄛ不是阿因為我吃真的這個很合我的口味所以...」
別再騙自己了,我相信○蘭會有喜歡的人
但你別拍照打卡,然後把店名拔掉,純粹吃一次你在捫心自問一次,我就不信還剩多少
───
再來說一下這個食記
這是第二個歪風,在我看來食記這東西
幾乎是為了炫耀而寫
1.內容浮誇不真實、用字遣詞胡說八道:
最常出現的就是入口即化這個詞了,最常形容的標的物叫和牛
我他媽常看一堆低能兒照片裡是牛小排或菲力甚至整塊的普通國產翼板牛排
「這個超級好吃真是入口即化.....」 我認真的覺得該化掉的是他的腦袋
其他浮誇的用詞、用詞不精準、胡說八道的我實在懶得一一指證
2.自己在吃甚麼說不清道不處:
「這個日文我看不懂,不知道是甚麼部位,但是日本國產牛真是太好吃了...!」
....我都不知道該從哪邊吐槽起ㄟ
不知道甚麼部位←你在吃啥你都不知道就能太好吃,那其他更好吃同樣部位的怎麼形容?
超爆幹強好吃嗎
尤其是燒肉,每個部位適合熟度都不同(參閱小弟寫的和牛文),你確定你烤得好???
還有題外話,國產牛在日本比美國牛還便宜而且真的比較難吃(廣義上)
另外一個和牛吃到飽我也懶得吐槽下次再吐好了。
3.臉比食物大的:
這我也不想提了,我是來看食記還是看你的臉阿???
以上回想一下,是不是發現
現況海量的食記中,根本沒有幾篇可以看
喔更別提還有網路寫手這個東西,收錢做事還一堆不專業的
實在比一般炫耀更糟糕
然後去日旅版打"蘭"可以搜到100篇以上的食記
讓人搞不懂同一個東西一直寫一直寫
到底是怕誰不知道你們去吃過這東西喔
看到這邊,看官們有沒有發現呼應到第一點的第五項?
人氣&排隊實在影響了現在人味蕾的發展
我覺得雖然料理本身真的很主觀(主因素前四點都是)
但真的別再讓第五點影響自己的味覺。
──
最後,來自日本鄉民的打臉(有興趣的2CH已經有8000條討論,自行觀看一下)
我取幾條日人寫的評價(PS:說好話的真的極少)
還有我取的討論是「發表排名之前」在進行的,所以滿客觀的
134 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:00:01.28 ID:eIuoHx0E
一蘭はチャーシューの不味さなら日本一。
あんな不味いのその辺の中華屋の駄ラーメンでもないぞ。
402 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:03:34.20 ID:NAH2MEOa
一蘭は個別カウンターとかいうクソシステムをどうにかしろ
豚の餌かよ
二度と行く気がせん
496 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:04:43.85 ID:cwgK0jID
一蘭のチャーシュー大嫌い
500 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:04:45.23 ID:o9/4swZO
一蘭高すぎ殺す
535 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:05:01.16 ID:r31oNecV
一蘭と花月は不味い
549 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:05:10.28 ID:FMvsUwWO
一蘭のラーメン食べると次の日絶対下痢する
550 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:05:11.00 ID:XFU/Z8Ql
一蘭で食ったら絶対に下痢する
602 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 21:05:39.41 ID:X387SjWb
一蘭なんか食べないよ
267 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:24:41.30 ID:uK48HaD7
たぶん一蘭だろうな一位
一品に絞って明らかに一位狙いの戦略だし
270 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:24:46.02 ID:c8w5poKU
福岡だが、一蘭が一位なんて恥だ
291 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:25:36.27 ID:Xln7pmnY
一蘭のせいで福岡のラーメンの値段があがりまくったわ
316 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:27:24.70 ID:hbzrZ7zV
完全に出来レース。
一蘭が金の力で一位だろ、どうせ
433 :名無しステーション :2016/05/29(日) 22:31:05.63 ID:QDEz0mFE
>>359
福岡のその辺のラーメン屋適当に入ったほうが一蘭より美味しいよ
太多我就不貼了,只看發表前討論評價為主
結語一下,這些日本人跟我觀感大致相同
1.很貴,在拉麵中一蘭貴的不可思議,而且很小
2.宣傳很強,廣告跟排隊效應
3.為了考察是不是我在東京大阪吃的一蘭味道不怎麼樣,所以我飛去福岡時
特別跑去吃了一蘭本店,真的很一般,要我說的話我不會給到差評,但在一片
「神好吃」的呼聲中顯得特別可笑跟失望,另外跟日本鄉民說的一樣
隨便在福岡找一間都便宜又好吃(實際上東京也是)
最後,再度呼籲,別再寫/看不營養的食記,讓第五點影響自己的味蕾
多支持真正的好店、多嘗試、多選擇,你的生活體驗會更豐富,共勉之
阿,真的不是一竿子打翻一船(上一篇我也有說)
但下次的看食記的時候,給你們一個訣竅
犯了我第二節敘述三點其中一點的那個人食記以後一輩子都不用看了
他是寫來炫耀,不是跟你說這間店值得去吃的,出發點就錯了,懂?
--
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