喝水 - 健行

By Anonymous
at 2017-05-14T01:37
at 2017-05-14T01:37
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大家好,
個人參加學弟的畢業旅行,
在5/11、5/12 兩天進行了玉山主峰的攻頂。
雖然過程中,在凌晨從排雲攻頂時。
有發生HACE症狀,卻還吃成HAPE的藥物(威爾鋼)
但還是硬撐過去。不知道為何在頂峰時頭突然不痛了。
詳細位置是後腦勺。
不敢對導遊說,怕害學弟們畢業旅行泡湯
下山後爬了一下文才發現當下這樣做真的超級危險。
然後對登山的其中一項準備抱有疑問。
那就是喝水,我有爬文,編號314 作者ddtdd
底下還有人回覆說,
脫水量公式5g * x(公斤數) *y(小時)
飲水量=5xy-20x (g)
因為我是登山的初心者,所以很多部分不是那麼清楚。
所以想先立這一個假設,和給定一個條件。
如果是在一天能走到的路程(兩旅店據點之間),揹負重約10kg
然後不帶燒水的用具,只帶水壺(2罐各1L)的情況下。
我應該如何飲水?
(一)我已經理解了,領隊說上山時喝太多水,電解質流失太多,
有機率會導致抽筋,這點既使不爬山也知道。
(二)但因為體驗過HACE 所以特別上網查了一下,登5000多公尺的,
香港人,這麼寫了:多喝水才能適應高山症。
(
http://fitz.hk/sports/hiking/%E6%B5%B7%E6%8B%945%E5
%8D%83%E7%B1%B3%E7%9A%845%E5%80%8B%E6%B9%96-gokyo%E
5%96%9C%E9%A6%AC%E6%8B%89%E9%9B%85%E5%B1%B1ebc-%E6%
BA%96%E5%82%99%E5%8F%8A%E8%A3%9D%E5%82%99-%E5%85%AD/
)
(三)同時我也知道其實可以吃酸梅補充電解質等這一件事。
(四)也有人提到說,走道休息站在大量把水補回來,行進間
少喝水。
矛盾點在於,一個要多喝水避免HACE,一個要少喝水避免抽筋。
我希望能在一次登台灣百岳,但是又不想得高山症。
同時我們是兩天一夜,第一天因為大家都要上課,太晚出發,
只好到1000m民宿就寢。(因為門已經關上,無法到東埔山莊適應高山症)
第二天直接從2600左右至3400左右(排雲),結果大家都得了急性高山症。
厭食、疲倦、失眠、頭痛(半途上有人頭被吹到冷風)
零晨起來攻頂,自己發生了HACE,起初有跟領隊說,然後吃錯藥。
但在攀岩時狀況更加劇烈,甚至稍微有意識不清楚。硬撐撐上去。
結果到峰頂時,就不痛了。
全員都是新手,有固定一天三粒半顆的丹木斯。
而外加問一個小問題,其實登玉山的人蠻多的,如果喝太多水導致想上廁所,
又還沒到休息站,那該怎麼辦? 應該要買尿袋? 怕在路邊尿尿時,剛好有人經過。
被看光光這樣。
--
個人參加學弟的畢業旅行,
在5/11、5/12 兩天進行了玉山主峰的攻頂。
雖然過程中,在凌晨從排雲攻頂時。
有發生HACE症狀,卻還吃成HAPE的藥物(威爾鋼)
但還是硬撐過去。不知道為何在頂峰時頭突然不痛了。
詳細位置是後腦勺。
不敢對導遊說,怕害學弟們畢業旅行泡湯
下山後爬了一下文才發現當下這樣做真的超級危險。
然後對登山的其中一項準備抱有疑問。
那就是喝水,我有爬文,編號314 作者ddtdd
底下還有人回覆說,
脫水量公式5g * x(公斤數) *y(小時)
飲水量=5xy-20x (g)
因為我是登山的初心者,所以很多部分不是那麼清楚。
所以想先立這一個假設,和給定一個條件。
如果是在一天能走到的路程(兩旅店據點之間),揹負重約10kg
然後不帶燒水的用具,只帶水壺(2罐各1L)的情況下。
我應該如何飲水?
(一)我已經理解了,領隊說上山時喝太多水,電解質流失太多,
有機率會導致抽筋,這點既使不爬山也知道。
(二)但因為體驗過HACE 所以特別上網查了一下,登5000多公尺的,
香港人,這麼寫了:多喝水才能適應高山症。
(
http://fitz.hk/sports/hiking/%E6%B5%B7%E6%8B%945%E5
%8D%83%E7%B1%B3%E7%9A%845%E5%80%8B%E6%B9%96-gokyo%E
5%96%9C%E9%A6%AC%E6%8B%89%E9%9B%85%E5%B1%B1ebc-%E6%
BA%96%E5%82%99%E5%8F%8A%E8%A3%9D%E5%82%99-%E5%85%AD/
)
(三)同時我也知道其實可以吃酸梅補充電解質等這一件事。
(四)也有人提到說,走道休息站在大量把水補回來,行進間
少喝水。
矛盾點在於,一個要多喝水避免HACE,一個要少喝水避免抽筋。
我希望能在一次登台灣百岳,但是又不想得高山症。
同時我們是兩天一夜,第一天因為大家都要上課,太晚出發,
只好到1000m民宿就寢。(因為門已經關上,無法到東埔山莊適應高山症)
第二天直接從2600左右至3400左右(排雲),結果大家都得了急性高山症。
厭食、疲倦、失眠、頭痛(半途上有人頭被吹到冷風)
零晨起來攻頂,自己發生了HACE,起初有跟領隊說,然後吃錯藥。
但在攀岩時狀況更加劇烈,甚至稍微有意識不清楚。硬撐撐上去。
結果到峰頂時,就不痛了。
全員都是新手,有固定一天三粒半顆的丹木斯。
而外加問一個小問題,其實登玉山的人蠻多的,如果喝太多水導致想上廁所,
又還沒到休息站,那該怎麼辦? 應該要買尿袋? 怕在路邊尿尿時,剛好有人經過。
被看光光這樣。
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