對不會日文的人 也很友善的京阪神餐廳 - 旅遊
By Anthony
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※ 引述《misssandyu (姍)》之銘言:
: 大家好
: 我6月要一個人飛京阪神
: 疫情前去大阪曾經有被店家兇過
: 也遇過有看到外國人就搖搖手的
: 我知道日本不少地方對觀光客不友善
: 最近解封觀光客又很多讓日本人很炸
: 如果會講日文 可能會被相對友善的對待
: 但我的日文程度大概只有五十音+簡單單字句子
: 可能我講一句 他們回什麼我也聽不懂
: 想請問一下版友自身的經驗
: 有沒有可以使用破日文+破英文
: 配上簡單的比手畫腳 也可以吃的很開心的店
: 或是對不會日文的觀光客 還態度非常友善的好店家
: 不限制餐廳種類 不要是超級難吃的雷店就好
: 不然我可能就要全部排平板點餐的餐廳了QQ
有一些地雷點不要去踩:
1.一下子就從店外走進店內說要內用
2.闖進店內的客人止步區(包括洗手間,沒看到標示就要先問一下)
3.違反用餐習慣(例如串炸的醬汁、迴轉壽司的抹茶粉、薑片的取用等)
4.高調四處拍照
5.有影響或打擾到其它客人的行為
6.只點最低消費的餐點然後多人共食、多人共食一餐點、...
這部份有東西可以參考,像是「孤獨的美食家」,看個幾集其實可
捉摸出當一個客人時的一些可靠的的舉止態度,例如:
1.五郎經常是站在店門口附近向內詢問是否有營業、有內用、一個
人是否ok
2.有一集是洗手間要經過廚房,五郎一定會先問店內人員
3.這個就自己捉摸,依餐點種類內容的不同而會有所不同
4.拍照前能先問一下是比較好的,不然就低調一點,至少關拍照聲
以及不要正對著人拍
5.拍照、喧嘩、隨意併桌、挪動桌椅、..
6.五郎都是一人吃一份以上餐點比較沒這問題
其它最多是臉臭,那個臉臭還不是普通的臭就是看你是黑髮外國人
就臉臭的那種,2019那時候。
或是從頭到尾不管是老闆或是服務生,都只跟你講日文,霹靂啪啦
一串日文那樣。
態度輕蔑的部份倒是很少,最多就是眼神(就搭配上面臉臭),畢竟
你是客人,而他們巴望觀光客來消費已經很久了。
餐館事前調查的部份我都用google,通常依序看
1.google評分
2.最近評論(就是依新舊排序,看最新的)
3.「菜單」,由菜單來推敲這間店好不好點餐
4.然後才是一堆照片
像我寫過食記的這間
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Japan_Travel/M.1680677129.A.131.html
1.評分3.9還ok
2.半年內大多是3~5星,普遍好評只有一則外帶的差評
3.菜單我鎖定想點的餐點,我看得懂日文也能唸
(因為有時無法期望想去的店有提供非日文菜單)
店家或客人也有在更新店內菜單(最新版的2023四月)
4.照片看起來內用點餐、用餐環境單純不複雜
我一開始就是站在店門口但不踩進去,先問「がいこくじん okですが?」
(俺是外國人,ok嗎?),然後才說我們是「ふだり」(我們是兩個人)
兼比 2 手勢,店員就招呼我們到某一桌坐下,順口就說了沒有英文
menu的菜單ok嗎,我就說ok。
(更簡單就是 Excuse me, two men, two, ok?)(兼用手勢比劃示意)
點餐後因餐點種類的問題,店員改請我們坐吧台,ok的,我忘記我是
怎麼聽懂那句的我日文只有N5,應該是關鍵字「吧台座位」加上他的
手勢態度。
但基本上我也不擔心,因為,我有先問我們是外國人ok嗎,他說ok,
日本的服務大部份情況就是,他要嘛一開始就拒絕你,而一旦他接受
了,他就會盡量提供服務,例如以上面的情況,他再怎樣都會讓我理
解「我們必須移動到吧台座位」,而我如果死皮賴臉一副就是我聽不
懂、無法理解、理解不能..他多半還是會讓我坐一般座位的。
然後我覺得你的消極做法也沒什麼不好,比方全選擇可使用平板或者
觸控機器點餐的餐館,比方松屋就是後者一種簡單的選擇,但即便你
選這樣的餐館,在店內等待、享用餐點的時刻,你還是可以觀察看看
「其它客人的舉止態度、與店家的對話、互動等」,不過這種店能觀
察的有限就是了,像吉野家相對來說較多。
觀察夠多,然後跟大部份客人做一樣的事,就好了。像我大多一個人
自助旅行,我總是一個人低調地用餐偶爾拍拍照(切靜音),然後餐點
幾乎都是喀乾淨一滴不剩除了骨頭魚刺,盡量讓自己當一個人家會喜
歡的客人這樣。
最後,與其破日文+破英文,不如:
1.讓自己的破日文更好一點,集中火力學習點餐用餐相關
2.或讓自己的破英文更好一點,集中火力學習點餐用餐相關
3.你可以採取一些做法來減少變數,例如把想點的餐點照片事先拍起
來或存起來放手機,先研究菜單、研究評論、研究照片等。
--
: 大家好
: 我6月要一個人飛京阪神
: 疫情前去大阪曾經有被店家兇過
: 也遇過有看到外國人就搖搖手的
: 我知道日本不少地方對觀光客不友善
: 最近解封觀光客又很多讓日本人很炸
: 如果會講日文 可能會被相對友善的對待
: 但我的日文程度大概只有五十音+簡單單字句子
: 可能我講一句 他們回什麼我也聽不懂
: 想請問一下版友自身的經驗
: 有沒有可以使用破日文+破英文
: 配上簡單的比手畫腳 也可以吃的很開心的店
: 或是對不會日文的觀光客 還態度非常友善的好店家
: 不限制餐廳種類 不要是超級難吃的雷店就好
: 不然我可能就要全部排平板點餐的餐廳了QQ
有一些地雷點不要去踩:
1.一下子就從店外走進店內說要內用
2.闖進店內的客人止步區(包括洗手間,沒看到標示就要先問一下)
3.違反用餐習慣(例如串炸的醬汁、迴轉壽司的抹茶粉、薑片的取用等)
4.高調四處拍照
5.有影響或打擾到其它客人的行為
6.只點最低消費的餐點然後多人共食、多人共食一餐點、...
這部份有東西可以參考,像是「孤獨的美食家」,看個幾集其實可
捉摸出當一個客人時的一些可靠的的舉止態度,例如:
1.五郎經常是站在店門口附近向內詢問是否有營業、有內用、一個
人是否ok
2.有一集是洗手間要經過廚房,五郎一定會先問店內人員
3.這個就自己捉摸,依餐點種類內容的不同而會有所不同
4.拍照前能先問一下是比較好的,不然就低調一點,至少關拍照聲
以及不要正對著人拍
5.拍照、喧嘩、隨意併桌、挪動桌椅、..
6.五郎都是一人吃一份以上餐點比較沒這問題
其它最多是臉臭,那個臉臭還不是普通的臭就是看你是黑髮外國人
就臉臭的那種,2019那時候。
或是從頭到尾不管是老闆或是服務生,都只跟你講日文,霹靂啪啦
一串日文那樣。
態度輕蔑的部份倒是很少,最多就是眼神(就搭配上面臉臭),畢竟
你是客人,而他們巴望觀光客來消費已經很久了。
餐館事前調查的部份我都用google,通常依序看
1.google評分
2.最近評論(就是依新舊排序,看最新的)
3.「菜單」,由菜單來推敲這間店好不好點餐
4.然後才是一堆照片
像我寫過食記的這間
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Japan_Travel/M.1680677129.A.131.html
1.評分3.9還ok
2.半年內大多是3~5星,普遍好評只有一則外帶的差評
3.菜單我鎖定想點的餐點,我看得懂日文也能唸
(因為有時無法期望想去的店有提供非日文菜單)
店家或客人也有在更新店內菜單(最新版的2023四月)
4.照片看起來內用點餐、用餐環境單純不複雜
我一開始就是站在店門口但不踩進去,先問「がいこくじん okですが?」
(俺是外國人,ok嗎?),然後才說我們是「ふだり」(我們是兩個人)
兼比 2 手勢,店員就招呼我們到某一桌坐下,順口就說了沒有英文
menu的菜單ok嗎,我就說ok。
(更簡單就是 Excuse me, two men, two, ok?)(兼用手勢比劃示意)
點餐後因餐點種類的問題,店員改請我們坐吧台,ok的,我忘記我是
怎麼聽懂那句的我日文只有N5,應該是關鍵字「吧台座位」加上他的
手勢態度。
但基本上我也不擔心,因為,我有先問我們是外國人ok嗎,他說ok,
日本的服務大部份情況就是,他要嘛一開始就拒絕你,而一旦他接受
了,他就會盡量提供服務,例如以上面的情況,他再怎樣都會讓我理
解「我們必須移動到吧台座位」,而我如果死皮賴臉一副就是我聽不
懂、無法理解、理解不能..他多半還是會讓我坐一般座位的。
然後我覺得你的消極做法也沒什麼不好,比方全選擇可使用平板或者
觸控機器點餐的餐館,比方松屋就是後者一種簡單的選擇,但即便你
選這樣的餐館,在店內等待、享用餐點的時刻,你還是可以觀察看看
「其它客人的舉止態度、與店家的對話、互動等」,不過這種店能觀
察的有限就是了,像吉野家相對來說較多。
觀察夠多,然後跟大部份客人做一樣的事,就好了。像我大多一個人
自助旅行,我總是一個人低調地用餐偶爾拍拍照(切靜音),然後餐點
幾乎都是喀乾淨一滴不剩除了骨頭魚刺,盡量讓自己當一個人家會喜
歡的客人這樣。
最後,與其破日文+破英文,不如:
1.讓自己的破日文更好一點,集中火力學習點餐用餐相關
2.或讓自己的破英文更好一點,集中火力學習點餐用餐相關
3.你可以採取一些做法來減少變數,例如把想點的餐點照片事先拍起
來或存起來放手機,先研究菜單、研究評論、研究照片等。
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