為何去日本多降落在成田機場? - 東京
By Aaliyah
at 2015-03-21T03:41
at 2015-03-21T03:41
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※ 引述《supermars ( 歡迎參觀名片檔)》之銘言:
: 我這個月初終於又因為有機緣而飛去了日本,
: 搭乘的日航則是降落在成田機場。
: 而網路上有許多朋友上似乎也都以降落成田機場為主,但羽田不是距離東京比較近嗎?
: 是甚麼原因幾乎都降落在羽田機場居多?
: (羽田機場好像也比較老舊?)
想想看:松山不是在台北市中心嗎? 為什麼國際線都從桃園起降多?
: 然後網路上看購買到羽田機場的機票好像比較貴、航班也比較少,就飛行距離方面應該
: 是羽田比較接近台灣阿@@
然後松山機場的機票好像比較貴,航班也比較少......
: 以上是我的疑問,謝謝。
就歷史來說,
東京機場本來只有羽田,
無論國內國際都是羽田。
但因為很早就有容量不足的問題,
只好蓋了成田機場,
把國際線都趕去成田。
一方面是因為日本國內線需求相當高,
一方面是國內線需要與新幹線競爭等各種因素,
所以選擇被留在羽田的是國內線,
而不是國際線。
就像台北把國內線留在松山,
國際線趕去桃園一樣。
如果把國內線丟去桃園,
根本不可能與台鐵或國道客運競爭,
但國際線比較沒有影響。
但,成田機場建設時遭受前所未有的抗爭,
抗議派甚至連汽油彈等武器都出現,
到最後抗議團體甚至成功佔領塔臺破壞塔臺設備,
導致機場延後半年開港。
所以政府對於成田的經營也是兢兢業業。
為了顧慮千葉成田居民的感受,
國土交通省早年貫徹了「內際分離」原則,
羽田專門飛國內線,成田專飛國際線。
雖然後來因為海上建築技術等進步,
羽田得以擴建大幅提高起降數,
日本政府對於羽田加飛國際線的態度仍然一直很保守。
對千葉縣民來說,
當初政府不顧居民反對,堅持要在成田蓋機場,
抱持的理由就是把機場相關商機帶到成田,
促進地方繁榮之類的。
就好像現在桃園航空城喊得天花亂墜一樣。
但如果政府允許國際線回羽田,
千葉居民會有相當被背叛的感覺,
如果成田競爭優勢又輸給羽田,
那當初政府的承諾在哪裡,之類的。
但因為後來成田也面臨飽和,
航空公司也積極爭取羽田國際線,
更重要的是後來發現內際分離的嚴重副作用:
對於鄉下居民太不方便。
由於日本航空公司國際線hub都在成田(與後來的關西),
大多數的國際航班沒有從鄉下直飛。
例如,假設秋田居民要出國。
先搭國內線到羽田後,
還要搭上兩小時的電車去成田轉機。
對於地方人口來說,這太過於不便。
壓垮駱駝最後一根稻草是,
在促進觀光人口的趨勢下,
日本也跟韓國、台灣等各國簽了開放天空。
結果是,韓國航空公司大量申請執飛日本鄉下機場。
日本社會才驚覺,韓國看重的商機是,
日本鄉下的飛機直飛仁川機場後,
就可以直接轉飛其他國家,大賺轉機經濟。
反正都是得轉一次,
仁川轉機還比東京輕鬆的多。
這下日本官方臉色就不好了,
國土交通省被國會狂批,竟然讓仁川當日本的hub機場。
於是內際分離的政策受到挑戰。
但政府的立場,
還是要顧慮千葉居民的感受,
事實上,每當羽田傳出國際線的風聲,
千葉縣知事就會表示反感。
所以開放過程還是十足的小心翼翼。
一開始先以,成田晚上有宵禁,
往歐美適合深夜起飛的航線無法在成田起飛。
反觀羽田沒有宵禁,但國內線對深夜時段沒有需求為理由,
漸進式釋出羽田深夜時段給國際線飛。
接下來才逐步拓展「有限度的」起降數允許國際線使用,
漸漸脫卻前面說的仁川機場競爭問題。
表面上,國際機場還是成田為主,
但是,為了鄉下居民在羽田可以直接轉國際線的需要,
所以有限度的開放羽田的國際線班機,這樣的名義。
於是這才有了台北松山-羽田班機的誕生。
但實際上是,
日本國內線對於羽田的需要還是相當高。
羽田真的也沒多少閒置額度可以開放,
航空公司都搶著要羽田的起降權。
所以最近欠了一屁股債的天馬航空,
明明債務累累,
但日航跟全日空還是一直表達有興趣支援,
都是在覬覦天馬被分配到的羽田起降數。
為什麼航空公司不飛羽田?
航空公司想死了!問題根本拿不到航權。
別說羽田,現在連成田都很搶。
台虎爭取半天,
只拿到一個成田相當離峰的時段。
威航是根本透漏可能搶不到羽田跟成田,
打算要不要直接飛到茨城去了。
不過說真的啦,京成新線開通後,
現在羽田、成田進都心的時間其實差不多啦。
除了車票價格問題而已。
這樣有回答到問題嗎?
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: 我這個月初終於又因為有機緣而飛去了日本,
: 搭乘的日航則是降落在成田機場。
: 而網路上有許多朋友上似乎也都以降落成田機場為主,但羽田不是距離東京比較近嗎?
: 是甚麼原因幾乎都降落在羽田機場居多?
: (羽田機場好像也比較老舊?)
想想看:松山不是在台北市中心嗎? 為什麼國際線都從桃園起降多?
: 然後網路上看購買到羽田機場的機票好像比較貴、航班也比較少,就飛行距離方面應該
: 是羽田比較接近台灣阿@@
然後松山機場的機票好像比較貴,航班也比較少......
: 以上是我的疑問,謝謝。
就歷史來說,
東京機場本來只有羽田,
無論國內國際都是羽田。
但因為很早就有容量不足的問題,
只好蓋了成田機場,
把國際線都趕去成田。
一方面是因為日本國內線需求相當高,
一方面是國內線需要與新幹線競爭等各種因素,
所以選擇被留在羽田的是國內線,
而不是國際線。
就像台北把國內線留在松山,
國際線趕去桃園一樣。
如果把國內線丟去桃園,
根本不可能與台鐵或國道客運競爭,
但國際線比較沒有影響。
但,成田機場建設時遭受前所未有的抗爭,
抗議派甚至連汽油彈等武器都出現,
到最後抗議團體甚至成功佔領塔臺破壞塔臺設備,
導致機場延後半年開港。
所以政府對於成田的經營也是兢兢業業。
為了顧慮千葉成田居民的感受,
國土交通省早年貫徹了「內際分離」原則,
羽田專門飛國內線,成田專飛國際線。
雖然後來因為海上建築技術等進步,
羽田得以擴建大幅提高起降數,
日本政府對於羽田加飛國際線的態度仍然一直很保守。
對千葉縣民來說,
當初政府不顧居民反對,堅持要在成田蓋機場,
抱持的理由就是把機場相關商機帶到成田,
促進地方繁榮之類的。
就好像現在桃園航空城喊得天花亂墜一樣。
但如果政府允許國際線回羽田,
千葉居民會有相當被背叛的感覺,
如果成田競爭優勢又輸給羽田,
那當初政府的承諾在哪裡,之類的。
但因為後來成田也面臨飽和,
航空公司也積極爭取羽田國際線,
更重要的是後來發現內際分離的嚴重副作用:
對於鄉下居民太不方便。
由於日本航空公司國際線hub都在成田(與後來的關西),
大多數的國際航班沒有從鄉下直飛。
例如,假設秋田居民要出國。
先搭國內線到羽田後,
還要搭上兩小時的電車去成田轉機。
對於地方人口來說,這太過於不便。
壓垮駱駝最後一根稻草是,
在促進觀光人口的趨勢下,
日本也跟韓國、台灣等各國簽了開放天空。
結果是,韓國航空公司大量申請執飛日本鄉下機場。
日本社會才驚覺,韓國看重的商機是,
日本鄉下的飛機直飛仁川機場後,
就可以直接轉飛其他國家,大賺轉機經濟。
反正都是得轉一次,
仁川轉機還比東京輕鬆的多。
這下日本官方臉色就不好了,
國土交通省被國會狂批,竟然讓仁川當日本的hub機場。
於是內際分離的政策受到挑戰。
但政府的立場,
還是要顧慮千葉居民的感受,
事實上,每當羽田傳出國際線的風聲,
千葉縣知事就會表示反感。
所以開放過程還是十足的小心翼翼。
一開始先以,成田晚上有宵禁,
往歐美適合深夜起飛的航線無法在成田起飛。
反觀羽田沒有宵禁,但國內線對深夜時段沒有需求為理由,
漸進式釋出羽田深夜時段給國際線飛。
接下來才逐步拓展「有限度的」起降數允許國際線使用,
漸漸脫卻前面說的仁川機場競爭問題。
表面上,國際機場還是成田為主,
但是,為了鄉下居民在羽田可以直接轉國際線的需要,
所以有限度的開放羽田的國際線班機,這樣的名義。
於是這才有了台北松山-羽田班機的誕生。
但實際上是,
日本國內線對於羽田的需要還是相當高。
羽田真的也沒多少閒置額度可以開放,
航空公司都搶著要羽田的起降權。
所以最近欠了一屁股債的天馬航空,
明明債務累累,
但日航跟全日空還是一直表達有興趣支援,
都是在覬覦天馬被分配到的羽田起降數。
為什麼航空公司不飛羽田?
航空公司想死了!問題根本拿不到航權。
別說羽田,現在連成田都很搶。
台虎爭取半天,
只拿到一個成田相當離峰的時段。
威航是根本透漏可能搶不到羽田跟成田,
打算要不要直接飛到茨城去了。
不過說真的啦,京成新線開通後,
現在羽田、成田進都心的時間其實差不多啦。
除了車票價格問題而已。
這樣有回答到問題嗎?
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