第一次一個人去日本的行程安排 - 旅遊

By Selena
at 2019-05-04T14:40
at 2019-05-04T14:40
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大家別緊張,其實在我們的生活之中呢,會出現像原PO這樣對周邊國家地理認知的謬誤,
往往來自於我們從小受的世界地理教育不足,
尤其是平時喜歡用台灣內部的地緣政治來不對稱比例國外放大的地緣,
像是什麼 東京=台北 大阪=高雄 等等錯誤認知,
造成我們會有日本關東關西猶如台灣北高一日生活圈一樣近在咫尺的詭辯。
回到正題,要想解決原PO落入的地理陷阱,
我們就要請出瓦解我們從小看慣的麥卡托式投影,
(很棒的互動網站:https://thetruesize.com/)
https://i.imgur.com/0OMelMx.png
大家可以看到經由互動地圖將高緯度國家拉到赤道後,
印度美國中國加起來都比非洲還小。
那麼日本實際上是怎樣的國家呢?
把日本的地理中心放到台灣的正上方,
https://i.imgur.com/z2O6Dml.jpg
哦我們就能知道,高雄到台北的距離大致上等於大阪到能登半島南部(金澤再往北),
所以你這四天的行程
: 8/26 天王寺動物園 -> 龜岡車站附近的龜山城遺址 -> 平和台公園
: 8/27 小松車站山丘科學博物館 -> 小松市立博物館 -> 蘆城公園
: 8/28 金澤車站 -> 21世紀美術館 -> 金澤城 -> 兼六園 -> 東茶屋街
: 8/29 高岡大佛 -> 高岡(動物園、公園、遺跡)
我大略參照了重疊位置,你的行程就像是
8/26 高雄愛河摩天輪 -> 台南安平古堡 -> 台南赤崁樓公園
8/27 新竹竹科 -> 新竹城隍廟 -> 六福村
8/28 台北車站 -> 北美館 -> 京華城 -> 微風廣場 -> 迪化街
8/29 金山法鼓山 -> 基隆廟口周邊
先不考慮時間金錢等移動成本(你還有市內交通移動要考慮),
其實這個排法合理的人可負荷運輸範圍,
目前為止唯一詬病的地方在於,
忽略日本地方景點的豐富密度,轉而採取走馬看花的行軍式觀光,
不過有些人就是喜歡走馬看花,我都有認識朋友一天玩廣島岡山姬路了,
天下無奇不有,我們就暫且預設你能夠接受這種行程。
我們繼續往下看問題最大的最後三天,
: 8/31 長野地域谷野猿公苑 -> 松本城 -> 美原高原
: 9/1 輕井澤雲場池 -> 石教堂 -> 晴空塔 -> 東京周邊 -> 往關西機場回搭
: 9/2 關西機場接續9/2團體行程
由於這三天牽涉到遠大於台灣南北東西距離的長途移動,
我們把日本利用互動網站等面積拉到國人朋友熟知的歐洲來對照,
https://i.imgur.com/Sy2aSWw.png
ㄧ放上去媽壓不得了啊,
日本的南北縱長可以從琉球所在的西班牙南歐到北海道道北的瑞典北歐,
原來我們平常在日旅板討論的尺度觀,其實接近一個歐洲的規模啊!
那麼我們來看原PO這幾天的行程,假想這議題出現在EuropeTravel板會出現怎樣的變化,
首先稍微調整一下對到歐陸主要城市,
https://i.imgur.com/VXMp8Sy.jpg
嗯...關東到關西大約就是德國南部到法國巴黎的距離,
有想法以後就能來排一下我們的三天歐陸旅遊行程惹,
8/31 比利時布魯塞爾大廣場 -> 比利時啤酒莊園旅行 -> 盧森堡
9/1 德國科隆 -> 科隆大教堂 -> 德國法蘭克福 -> 萊茵河畔周邊 -> 搭ICE回巴黎
9/2 巴黎機場接續9/2開始法國行程
我們看到已經不是像台灣南北旅遊那麼單純了,
在三天內移動歐陸四個國家,其實蠻像80年代土豪家庭的玩法,
不過9/1的大規模移動算是本篇癥結所在,尤其一天內要來回移動將近五百公里,
但我相信喜歡走馬看花的你,應該是能負荷這個行程的。
只是七天內 前四天走台灣島內觀光遊,後三天歐陸四國大長征,
我怕你體力無法短短幾天內承擔太大的差距,
建議前四天搭配三小時半馬拉松行程同步拖行李,才能前後旅途等量對等。
以上建議僅供參考~
※ 引述《ezo786 (喜歡藥但考不上的ㄈㄨ)》之銘言:
: 畢業旅行加我共六個人要去日本玩
: 已經買好機票在大阪關西機場下機
: 但由於我是第一次出國+第一次去日本,所以安排了七天是自己一個人
: 8/25~9/1一個人在日本
: 9/2~9/8同學們會在關西機場下機後我們再一起行動
: 那因為沒有去過日本,對於網路上的行程安排只靠想像的方式去安排
: 不想要9/2開始又重複玩了一次大阪地區
: 看了別人建議我的,購買北陸拱形鐵路周遊券
: 原先是建議我從成田或羽田下機,玩七天到大阪剛好可以接機
: 但因為旅費有限,剛好買到虎航8/25號的便宜票
: 所以我會在關西機場下機
: 目前安排的行程大概是這樣(第一次去行程排得可能在某些人眼中覺得很奇怪或是很浪費時間)
: 但希望大家能給我點意見
: 個人是非常不排斥一直走路或是拖著行李走
: 8/25 晚上10點下機後先在機場的休息室待到一大早有車開始跑行程
: 8/26 天王寺動物園 -> 龜岡車站附近的龜山城遺址 -> 平和台公園
: 8/27 小松車站山丘科學博物館 -> 小松市立博物館 -> 蘆城公園
: 8/28 金澤車站 -> 21世紀美術館 -> 金澤城 -> 兼六園 -> 東茶屋街
: 8/29 高岡大佛 -> 高岡(動物園、公園、遺跡)
: 8/30 立山黑部
: 8/31 長野地域谷野猿公苑 -> 松本城 -> 美原高原
: 9/1 輕井澤雲場池 -> 石教堂 -> 晴空塔 -> 東京周邊 -> 往關西機場回搭
: 9/2 關西機場接續9/2團體行程
: 大致上是這樣
: Dcard上給的建議是說因為我這樣很浪費錢跟時間
: 建議我改買 山陽&山陰地區鐵路周遊券 或是 關西&北陸地區周遊券
: 住在東京的朋友是跟我說他覺得 關西北陸周遊券 會比較好
: 他認為第一次旅遊不用一定要到東京
: 一方面語言不通東京人冷漠,一方面東京其實比較沒有大阪北陸地區有很多特色遺址等等
: 也有網友建議說就先在大阪把熱門景點跑完
: 但我不想要重複到這樣感覺兩個禮拜都在大阪玩很浪費....
: 我的想法是時間多看能跑多遠玩多遠
: 因為下次出國也不知道是什麼時候
: 剛好想到PTT版友給的意見或許會比dcard好很多
: 旅費共五萬(不包含機票、周遊券,包住宿、券無法使用的交通工具)
: 目前是前七後七個兩萬五
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