請教沖繩地獄級行程安排 - 旅遊
By Franklin
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行程請教範例
1. 出遊日期: 共幾天幾夜。盡量提供確切日期,說不定有特別活動可給建議
2. 每日行程:請寫下每一天所安排的 景點+住宿點+交通工具
3. 特別希望:提供個人旅遊重點或其他任何想徵求意見的部分
問行程 請以此格式發文(104.09.11)
再次更新資訊
真的很感謝大家的幫忙
也有人私訊給我提供協助
萬分感謝
目前大家比較有疑惑的地方
是針對洗腎患者的狀況
可能是我表達的不夠清楚
整團9人
搭機當天兵分二路
第一組
2+5 先出發(兩名輪椅者加五名幫手)搭樂桃9:35的班機(本來預計在台北住宿 當天再
上桃園,但後來發現這樣不比直接從宜蘭出發快多少 所以最後決定當天從宜蘭出發)
第二組
1+1 下午班機出發(洗腎患者加一名幫手) 安排早上洗腎12點結束,到機場搭乘下午14:
00的樂桃班機到沖繩,去飯店
有人提醒剛洗完腎,可能會有血壓低的問題
,因為之前也有家人洗完腎立刻再回宜蘭(從新竹到宜蘭),整體狀況雖然不是超有精神
,但一切看來都還可以,不過感謝大家提醒,我們會再詢問醫生確認血壓跟搭乘飛機是否
有影響。
再來提到餐廳
網路上查詢到沖繩的旅遊狀況跟離島很像,可能都是小店不太有無障礙的餐廳空間,也怕
造成當地店家的不便,所以原先規劃是早餐在飯店用餐,出去走景點會帶點小麵包、壽司
、飯糰路上充飢,主要是會買食物直接回飯店休息好好用餐。(一天一景點,累了立刻回
飯店的悠哉行程)
說實在話,
當初規劃行程時,一如留言說的,可能太天真了。
想著在台灣也曾這樣一群人浩浩蕩蕩出發,不可能沒有遇到狀況,但大家一起努力或是使
用鈔能力總是可以克服。
也有不少人建議可以先到離島,或是墾丁。
離島當初也是選項之一,但礙於離島的飛機更小(在網路上查到的,或許有誤也歡迎大家
更正我),怕更不舒適;而沒有選擇墾丁,是因為家人這輩子都沒有出國,還是想讓他看
看外面的世界。
家人在床一位33年,一位17年,其實我們也是這五年經濟狀況較好,才能家人一起出遊。
還記得第一次提到要帶他出門吃飯,他的反應是:「丟臉。」
第一時間以為他是覺得狀態不佳,已經不想面對外面,但看著他擔憂的悲傷的眼神,我知
道。他是怕我們丟臉。
怕造成我們的負擔,怕我們需要因為他們承擔外界不了解的眼光,怕麻煩到我們。
我真的,此生難忘。
有些人擔心的,認為我們的地獄是自找,怕我們造成別人的地獄,怕我們的一廂情願只是
增加當事者的地獄。
我充分瞭解,但不是完全同意。
我們努力讓這趟旅程順利,所以做功課,在合理範圍內儘量不影響他人,將當事者的感受
放在第一考量,我們盡最大努力,謝謝大家提供的各種想法跟建議,我們的行程內容都可
以討論再調整,但我們不可能不出門。
這世界有些東西不是閉上眼睛不看他就不存在。
希望有相關需求的朋友不要看到留言的某些言論,認為自己出門是造成別人的麻煩跟負擔
,這會讓人非常心痛。
總之,感謝大家,我們會再持續規劃,也有看到留言提議的旅行社,我們也會再去接洽。
因為之前看過很多回覆留言,最後不小心編輯到文章,導致留言缺失等慘案,所以我就沒
有針對看個別留言回覆,但每一則我們都有看,如果有漏掉或是疑惑或是建議,也歡迎再
留言回覆,非常感謝。
補充說明
首先非常感謝大家的回覆
讓我們當局者迷看清很多事情
再次說聲謝謝
有些資訊在此先補充
1.洗腎患者的狀況
洗腎當事者是出發當天週六早上洗,洗完再搭飛機出發,回來台灣當天週二下午洗。因為
平常在台灣也是這個排程(週二 週四洗腎)
唯一有調整的週二的早上改成下午,所以經過當事人評估認為此方法可行。
也會查詢沖繩當地的醫療,以防萬一。
2.
為何選擇廉航?
經濟確實是考量,但不是選擇的原因。
主要是因為航班時間。目前查詢日本飯店入住為下午3點,而華航跟長榮飛往沖繩的班機
是早上6&8點,我們在宜蘭,加上通勤時間,等於凌晨就要出發,這樣坐輪椅的時間真的
太長 。
有考慮如果先到沖繩機場是否可以先找休息的地方(至少讓輪椅者可以先躺下),不過目
前沒有找到相關機場附近短暫休息的旅店資訊,所以才選擇出發時間相對友善的樂桃。
再加上詢問過華航跟長榮,都表示沖繩太近沒有頭等艙,輪椅也沒辦法上機,需要用機上
輪椅,機上椅子也是沒辦法調整椅背,跟一般人乘坐相同。
而樂桃表示,可以協助到位,並安排第一排位置給我們使用,以及曾在網路上搜尋到輪椅
人士搭乘樂桃的經驗分享,所以才選擇樂桃。
3.是否有先進行國內/長途旅程,是否菜鳥越級打怪了?
之前曾有過國內兩天一夜的旅程,也曾上過郵輪五天四夜,所以帶家人出門不陌生,在台
灣有搭乘高鐵、台鐵、捷運大眾運輸的經驗,可能疏忽大意了,忘記人在國外語言不通的
問題。
感謝大家提醒九月天氣炎熱,已開小組會議決定全程包車,不會使用大眾運輸跟走路。
(包車會說無障礙車一台,包含司機跟全程)
4.外籍看護的出國問題
已請仲介協助辦理
5.
很多人建議直接包旅行團,我們也會再去詢價。
雖然很想說出預算無上限,不過真的沒辦法
目前估算整趟旅程的預算是
9人
樂桃機票8萬1 (換成長榮或華航是11萬)
飯店5萬
包車6萬 (四天都包車 一天一萬五)
餐費一天兩千/人,算三天(最後一天不算)約六萬
唯一要門票的海洋館 四萬
總計大概30萬
請問前輩們這樣的旅費估算有遺漏的嗎?(要準備來賣肝賺錢了...)
其實只是想讓家中長輩嘗試坐飛機的感覺
他們辛苦了一輩子
總想讓他們看看不一樣的風景
當然是希望他們開心而不是折磨
所以行程我們也會將他們的感受放在最最最優先考量
感謝大家的幫助
我們會再調整(目前看來廉航因為班機時間 所以無解 )
如果有其他建議也拜託大家告訴我們,非常感謝!
原文:
最近因為家裡長輩身體不佳,想要再還可以走動的時間帶他們出門
所以現在要來安排個夢魘難關等級的小旅遊
拜託各位前輩可以幫忙看一下內容
成員:
一名極重度身障(脖子以下無法動彈,無法自理,仰賴輪椅)
一名重度身障(半身不可動彈,亦需要人攙扶,仰賴輪椅)
一名糖尿病洗腎患者(可自理,但不可過於操勞)
可奴役的成人:6名
總共成員:9名(含一名外籍看護)
預計出發時間:9/23-9/26
搭乘:樂桃
行程規劃:
9/23(六)day1
9:35台灣起飛
12:20-14:30下機
午餐在那霸機場(空港)解決 電車 22分
15:00-19:00那景皇家棕档饭店(牧志)走路
19:00-21:00 晚餐沖繩那霸國际通(縣政府前)走路分
9/24(日)day2
8:00-10:30早餐那霸皇家棕栖飯店(牧志)開車110分
10:30-15:00餐沖繩美麗海水族館110分
17:00晚餐那霸皇家棕櫚飯店(牧志)
9/25(一) day3
10:00早餐那需皇家棕飯店(牧志) 電車35分
12:30-1400 午餐第一牧志公設市場走路4分
14:30-15:30那需皇家棕档饭店(牧志)走路4分
16:00-1700波上宮旭橋)電車30分
19:00晚餐那霸皇家棕糟飯店(牧志)電車30分
9/26(二)day4
8:30-10:00早餐那霸皇家棕櫚饭店(牧志)電車 22分
10:30那霸機場(準備回家!!)
交通:D2無障礙包車 其餘電車步行
問題:
1.我們找過資料,沖繩電車是無障礙,請問有前輩使用過嗎?是否有需要注意的事情?
2.因為需要使用成人尿布,請問沖繩當地好購買嗎?(怕行李塞不夠,因為還要帶氣墊床
)
3.美麗海水族館跟沖繩那霸國際通也是網路上找來的無障礙空間,請問有人去過可以提供
相關經驗嗎?
因為我們都是沒有去過沖繩,第一次攜家帶眷出門,就挑戰出國,內心也是非常忐忑,但
想著時間越來越少,總要付諸行動,還是決定衝了!
在拜託各位前輩可以幫忙看看行程,是否有疏忽沒有注意的地方,先感謝再感謝
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